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Startup Nation was Episode 1. This is Episode 2.

The era of the "Quick Exit" is over.
A new generation of Israeli founders has decided to go long: building category-defining giants that stay independent, stay global, and stay here.

Why?
Because the goal isn't just to start; it's to lead.
Because we believe the strength of Israel's economy is the foundation of our society. Scaling these companies is about more than just revenue; it's about national resilience, fostering a democratic future, and ensuring that the "Israeli engine" provides opportunity for everyone.

We sit down with them for three hours. No PR scripts. No fluff. Just the raw, unscripted playbook of how to scale from Tel Aviv to the world.

Us.

Erez Shachar

Erez Shachar

The Dean of Israeli ScaleUp

Erez is a Managing Partner and Co-Founder of Qumra Capital. His journey is intertwined with the evolution of Israeli tech—from the early days of Scitex to serving as CEO of Nur Macroprinters, which he led through its rapid growth and NASDAQ listing until its acquisition by HP.

While investing in early-stage startups, Erez and his partner, Boaz Dinte, identified a critical gap: the lack of local Growth-Stage support for companies ready to scale globally. To fill this gap, they founded Qumra, Israel's first dedicated Scale-Up fund, out of a shared belief that Israeli founders have the grit to build enduring, multi-billion-dollar institutions.

Over the last two decades, Erez has quietly partnered with the architects of the new economy, serving on the boards of companies like Taboola, Riskified, and Connecteam, and supporting the journeys of Fiverr and Varonis.

For Erez, scaling companies is more than business. It's about strengthening the engine of the State of Israel. He views a thriving tech sector as the foundation for a resilient, democratic, and equitable society. This podcast is a continuation of that mission: a space for honest reflection on the quiet decisions that define the path to global leadership.

Ram Ben Ishay

Ram Ben Ishay

The Young Challenger

Ram represents the restless energy of the next generation of builders. His path to the microphone wasn't linear; it was a deliberate journey through the key intersections of diplomacy, venture capital, and product leadership.

After serving as a spokesperson at the Israeli Consulate in New York, Ram moved to Silicon Valley to work in Venture Capital, gaining a front-row seat to the mechanics of global investment. But he soon realized that his true passion lay in building, not just backing. He moved to the operations side, leading product teams in Los Angeles and Tel Aviv, and today he shares those insights with the next generation as a lecturer at Reichman University.

On the podcast, Ram brings the "Challenger" mindset. He asks the tough, boots-on-the-ground questions: How do you actually build a culture that doesn't break at scale? How do you pivot when the market shifts? And how do you maintain the "builder" spirit while managing hundreds of employees? Driven by a deep curiosity about what makes organizations endure, Ram bridges the gap between today's visionaries and tomorrow's giants.

Episodes

Tomer Bar Zeev

Ep 1: ironSource CEO | Tomer Bar Zeev

The Accidental Empire

He didn't plan to build an $11B company. He didn't even want to be CEO. Tomer reveals the unscripted journey of ironSource—from a browser extension side-hustle to one of Israel's biggest IPOs.

Duration: 2h 31m · Views: 7.2K
Chen Amit

Ep 2: Tipalti CEO | Chen Amit

The Art of Being Boringly Successful

Why solve a sexy problem when you can solve a painful one? Chen Amit took the most tedious part of business—payments—and built an $8B giant. He talks about the investor who almost killed the company and why "slow growth" was his secret weapon.

Duration: 2h 31m · Views: 9.5K
Oren Kaniel

Ep 3: AppsFlyer CEO | Oren Kaniel

70% Market Share. Winning the Long Game.

How do you dominate the global market without selling your soul? Oren built the "Switzerland of mobile attribution" by saying no to quick money and yes to obsessing over customers. The bootstrapped mentality that never left, even at half a billion in revenue.

Duration: 2h 47m · Views: 14.8K
Ori Goshen

Ep 4: AI21 Labs CEO | Ori Goshen

David vs. Goliath. But with LLMs.

It sounds insane: A Tel Aviv startup going head-to-head with OpenAI and Google. Ori explains why they aren't blinking, the race for AGI, and why the next computing revolution will be defined by "reliable AI" for the enterprise.

Duration: 2h 52m · Views: 17.3K
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Ep 5: Fiverr CEO | Micha Kaufman

The $5 Revolution

It started as a gimmick. It became the future of work. Micha breaks down the late-night sessions that birthed the freelance economy, the battle to change how the world hires, and why he believes "company valuations are just voyeurism."

Duration: 2h 38m · Views: 46.3K
Eido Gal New

Ep 6: Riskified CEO | Eido Gal

The Dropout Who Guaranteed Success

No degree. 27 years old. Just the audacity to tell merchants: "If we approve a fraudulent deal, we pay you back." Eido shares how he turned a terrifying business model into a public company, and why the drop in stock price doesn't shake his belief in the long game.

Duration: 3h 11m · Views: --